Comments on: There is no vaccine for fear, and it’s contagious http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/ Denver parenting, with altitude Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:29:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JoAnn, The Casual Perfectionist http://thecasualperfectionist.com http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6347 JoAnn, The Casual Perfectionist http://thecasualperfectionist.com Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:55:35 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6347 Serra, thank you so much for stopping by and leaving a comment! I can only imagine the challenges you've faced (and still face!). Thank you so much for sharing your story! Thank you Midwestern Grandma for sharing your perspective from the past! So many times we forget that we are not so far removed from those diseases. Thank you everybody for your comments! Serra, thank you so much for stopping by and leaving a comment! I can only imagine the challenges you’ve faced (and still face!). Thank you so much for sharing your story!

Thank you Midwestern Grandma for sharing your perspective from the past! So many times we forget that we are not so far removed from those diseases.

Thank you everybody for your comments!

]]> By: Midwestern Grandma http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6346 Midwestern Grandma Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:49:54 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6346 I have a cousin who was born deaf because his mother contracted measles when she was pregnant with him....now, there is a family that experienced the tough times caused by the lack of disease-preventing immunizations in that point in time! The months he spent away from family during his educational years at the state school for the deaf was an added strain, in various ways, on the family. We thought it was tough when we kids had to go back to school after a summer break, but we got to come home each p.m., and not weeks later! Oh, how I remember the many, many stories of the terrible number of babies, children, adults who died of immunization-preventable diseases back in my grandparents' and parents' time! These stories were oftentimes repeated each Memorial Day as we walked among the tomb stones in the cemeteries, and the adults would reminisce. I remember the fear of polio when I was a child and how thrilled my parents were when they were finally able to take me and my brother to the doctor for the developed immunization against that terrible disease. I don't like getting shots, never have, but am so glad we have them at our disposal! Good article; interesting comments! I have a cousin who was born deaf because his mother contracted measles when she was pregnant with him….now, there is a family that experienced the tough times caused by the lack of disease-preventing immunizations in that point in time! The months he spent away from family during his educational years at the state school for the deaf was an added strain, in various ways, on the family. We thought it was tough when we kids had to go back to school after a summer break, but we got to come home each p.m., and not weeks later!

Oh, how I remember the many, many stories of the terrible number of babies, children, adults who died of immunization-preventable diseases back in my grandparents’ and parents’ time! These stories were oftentimes repeated each Memorial Day as we walked among the tomb stones in the cemeteries, and the adults would reminisce. I remember the fear of polio when I was a child and how thrilled my parents were when they were finally able to take me and my brother to the doctor for the developed immunization against that terrible disease.

I don’t like getting shots, never have, but am so glad we have them at our disposal!

Good article; interesting comments!

]]> By: Serra http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6345 Serra Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:31:58 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6345 JoAnn (and all), I live with a child with Autism, my 7 year old who is a wonderful child but distinctly different from his peers. He has wonderful support in school and is very high-functioning. He had "non-neurological" siezures starting at the age of 4 months that were attributed to the P (Pertussis/Whooping Cough) in the vaccines at 2 and 4 months. Luckily, we had a wonderful doctor who worked very diligently to determine the cause and recommended that we stop the Pertussis. At 6 months, he received everything else (now requested as individual shots and preservative-free since we educated ourselves on the issue) and his siezures stopped at about 7 months. At around 2 we began to notice that he was developmentally delayed and began to have him tested for delays which began with speech and grew into additional services. My son is a beautiful soul and has no concept of violence or hatred... I cannot image him in any other way, though we have our daily challenges. So, as my second child came along four years later, I was at a crossroads whether to vaccinate based on his brothers reaction. We opted to not get Pertussis and do everything else preservative-free and as individual items (as the compound that separates the ingredients have been suspect in Autism). This meant an extended schedule for receiving the shots as they felt that the maximum in one sitting was five. He had no adverse reactions. He now is just fine with getting shots (we just got one on Monday), though not quite as fond as Claire! :) So that's the story from a Minnesota Mom and an old college friend on my experience with vaccines and autism. Thanks for writing about such a critical issue in an open and honest manner. JoAnn (and all),

I live with a child with Autism, my 7 year old who is a wonderful child but distinctly different from his peers. He has wonderful support in school and is very high-functioning. He had “non-neurological” siezures starting at the age of 4 months that were attributed to the P (Pertussis/Whooping Cough) in the vaccines at 2 and 4 months. Luckily, we had a wonderful doctor who worked very diligently to determine the cause and recommended that we stop the Pertussis. At 6 months, he received everything else (now requested as individual shots and preservative-free since we educated ourselves on the issue) and his siezures stopped at about 7 months. At around 2 we began to notice that he was developmentally delayed and began to have him tested for delays which began with speech and grew into additional services. My son is a beautiful soul and has no concept of violence or hatred… I cannot image him in any other way, though we have our daily challenges.
So, as my second child came along four years later, I was at a crossroads whether to vaccinate based on his brothers reaction. We opted to not get Pertussis and do everything else preservative-free and as individual items (as the compound that separates the ingredients have been suspect in Autism). This meant an extended schedule for receiving the shots as they felt that the maximum in one sitting was five. He had no adverse reactions. He now is just fine with getting shots (we just got one on Monday), though not quite as fond as Claire! :)
So that’s the story from a Minnesota Mom and an old college friend on my experience with vaccines and autism. Thanks for writing about such a critical issue in an open and honest manner.

]]> By: JoAnn, The Casual Perfectionist http://thecasualperfectionist.com http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6344 JoAnn, The Casual Perfectionist http://thecasualperfectionist.com Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:33:16 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6344 Wendy, thanks for your comment! The CCIC URL is: http://www.childrensimmunization.org/ It looks to be working in my browser, but there it is again in case something is goofy. I hope you find the answers you need, and welcome to the wonderful world of parenting decisions! Wendy, thanks for your comment!

The CCIC URL is: http://www.childrensimmunization.org/

It looks to be working in my browser, but there it is again in case something is goofy.

I hope you find the answers you need, and welcome to the wonderful world of parenting decisions!

]]> By: Wendy http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6343 Wendy Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:23:40 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6343 Wow! Thanks so much for opening a tough conversation and providing great insight and resources. I'm a first-time momma-to-be and this has obviously been one of the hardest choices to prepare to make for a little person who's not even here yet. Your post and the comments have really put my mind at ease. Just one question: your link to the CCIC website seems broken - what is the URL? Wow! Thanks so much for opening a tough conversation and providing great insight and resources. I’m a first-time momma-to-be and this has obviously been one of the hardest choices to prepare to make for a little person who’s not even here yet. Your post and the comments have really put my mind at ease. Just one question: your link to the CCIC website seems broken – what is the URL?

]]> By: JoAnn, The Casual Perfectionist http://thecasualperfectionist.com http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6342 JoAnn, The Casual Perfectionist http://thecasualperfectionist.com Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:38:22 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6342 Thanks for the comments, MBUM! Autism opens up a whole different side to this argument, and it's unfortunate that the doctor who linked the MMR shot to Autism faked his results (I don't have specific source links, as a search on Google will show you oodles.) Something is causing Autism, and we need to figure out what that is. I'm just afraid that a false link to the MMR is hindering that study AND putting children at risk for these preventable diseases. I mean, if it isn't linked to vaccines, what is it! It has to be something! Right? But, you are right. If you live with a child with Autism, your decisions are harder when it comes to this topic! (I know there are people dealing with Autism that DO still vaccinate their children, and I know there are people dealing with Autism that DON'T vaccinate their children.) It's tricky! Thanks for the comments, MBUM! Autism opens up a whole different side to this argument, and it’s unfortunate that the doctor who linked the MMR shot to Autism faked his results (I don’t have specific source links, as a search on Google will show you oodles.) Something is causing Autism, and we need to figure out what that is.

I’m just afraid that a false link to the MMR is hindering that study AND putting children at risk for these preventable diseases. I mean, if it isn’t linked to vaccines, what is it! It has to be something! Right?

But, you are right. If you live with a child with Autism, your decisions are harder when it comes to this topic! (I know there are people dealing with Autism that DO still vaccinate their children, and I know there are people dealing with Autism that DON’T vaccinate their children.) It’s tricky!

]]> By: MBUM http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6341 MBUM Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:19:02 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6341 Ouchy, touchy subject... but loved reading it! My children are vaccinated and will continue to get certain shots (like flu shots). However, if I had a newborn... I wouldn't be following the typical schedule. I fully understand the importance of vaccinations, but completely disagree with HOW MANY and the "schedule"! Here's a can of worms to open... Autism. I have a nephew (he's a TWIN, almost 9) with autism. I won't go into all of it... to sum it up he probably was predisposed to having it, lots of ear infections/ antibiodics, and "scheduled" shots.... WHAMO autism. My sister is a PICU nurse, by the way. She takes her babies into the office.... shots are given, delays begin with one son... oddly the medical community she WORKS in, followed THEIR schedule, has NOTHING to do with any of his care now. "THEY" say bring those chubby little legs in here, "TRUST" us... but if your child gets autism, we have NOTHING to give for support. Diagnosis from medical community, autism...and then "here's the door" All his support is from the alternative fields.. Interesting, huh?! Whew... that is quite the soapbox, isn't it!?!?!?!? I know shots are important, I completely believe in the "big" picture, but I don't think I could hold chubby little legs down with complete confidence again. There needs to be another schedule, "alternative" schedule to protect "the herd", but also to protect our babies. I now have sisters not vaccinating to the "normal" schedule with complete disagreements from the doctors. No more arguing when they couldn't answer "yes" to this question, " Do you live with a child with Autism?" Ouchy, touchy subject… but loved reading it! My children are vaccinated and will continue to get certain shots (like flu shots). However, if I had a newborn… I wouldn’t be following the typical schedule. I fully understand the importance of vaccinations, but completely disagree with HOW MANY and the “schedule”! Here’s a can of worms to open… Autism. I have a nephew (he’s a TWIN, almost 9) with autism. I won’t go into all of it… to sum it up he probably was predisposed to having it, lots of ear infections/ antibiodics, and “scheduled” shots…. WHAMO autism. My sister is a PICU nurse, by the way. She takes her babies into the office…. shots are given, delays begin with one son… oddly the medical community she WORKS in, followed THEIR schedule, has NOTHING to do with any of his care now. “THEY” say bring those chubby little legs in here, “TRUST” us… but if your child gets autism, we have NOTHING to give for support.

Diagnosis from medical community, autism…and then “here’s the door” All his support is from the alternative fields.. Interesting, huh?!

Whew… that is quite the soapbox, isn’t it!?!?!?!? I know shots are important, I completely believe in the “big” picture, but I don’t think I could hold chubby little legs down with complete confidence again. There needs to be another schedule, “alternative” schedule to protect “the herd”, but also to protect our babies. I now have sisters not vaccinating to the “normal” schedule with complete disagreements from the doctors. No more arguing when they couldn’t answer “yes” to this question, ” Do you live with a child with Autism?”

]]> By: JoAnn, The Casual Perfectionist http://thecasualperfectionist.com http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6340 JoAnn, The Casual Perfectionist http://thecasualperfectionist.com Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:54:46 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6340 Laura, thanks for your comment! It can be a tough decision when you and your spouse don't agree. Good luck with your decisions! Thanks for your comment, Kari! Fear is such a powerful force. It's okay, Terra! I appreciate you weighing-in on the issue! Laura, thanks for your comment! It can be a tough decision when you and your spouse don’t agree. Good luck with your decisions!

Thanks for your comment, Kari! Fear is such a powerful force.

It’s okay, Terra! I appreciate you weighing-in on the issue!

]]> By: Terra http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6339 Terra Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:02:02 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6339 JOANN - I am sorry, I just have a short attn span during the day time and I already knew what I was going to say! I think the post was fantastic and worth every line. I will re-read later tonight because that is how I work! JOANN – I am sorry, I just have a short attn span during the day time and I already knew what I was going to say! I think the post was fantastic and worth every line. I will re-read later tonight because that is how I work!

]]> By: Kari http://www.milehighmamas.com/2009/04/29/there-is-no-vaccine-for-fear-and-it%e2%80%99s-contagious/#comment-6338 Kari Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:44:48 +0000 http://www.milehighmamas.com/?p=2717#comment-6338 I have to say that people who do not vaccinate because of fear anger me. If there is a legitimate health concern it is completely understandable but because of they're worried of the minor risks? The rest of us are taking whatever chance of risks there are and in so doing are making the world a safer place while those people are simply riding on our coat-tails. My opinion. Take it for what it's worth. :) I have to say that people who do not vaccinate because of fear anger me. If there is a legitimate health concern it is completely understandable but because of they’re worried of the minor risks? The rest of us are taking whatever chance of risks there are and in so doing are making the world a safer place while those people are simply riding on our coat-tails. My opinion. Take it for what it’s worth. :)

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