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		<title>By: tip</title>
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		<title>By: SwitchedOnMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwitchedOnMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the view from Maryland, check out my post on the subject:  http://themorechild.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/i-love-the-smell-of-markers-in-the-morning/</description>
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		<title>By: trs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!  What are all the ziploc baggies for?!!

If I were a parent faced with lists like these, I would ask for an accounting of what the supplies are intended to be used for.

5000 snack baggies?  Ri-freaking-diculous.
If they use all them I&#039;d be just as disappointed as if they didn&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!  What are all the ziploc baggies for?!!</p>
<p>If I were a parent faced with lists like these, I would ask for an accounting of what the supplies are intended to be used for.</p>
<p>5000 snack baggies?  Ri-freaking-diculous.<br />
If they use all them I&#8217;d be just as disappointed as if they didn&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Candace (Mama Luxe)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace (Mama Luxe)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absurd!  I hadn&#039;t heard about this before and it certainly did not used to be this way.  I&#039;m glad the burden isn&#039;t falling on the teacher, but I&#039;m not happy about this &quot;solution&quot; either.

Taxes are constantly rising and teachers are still underpaid and yet parents re being asked to contribute supplies not for the personal use of their child?

And yet we spend so much money on consultants and unnecessary speakers at training meetings (I&#039;m speaking as a former teacher here)?

My daughter is only 2, but I&#039;ll be checking into this in my school district.

Kids used to learn to read, write, and do arithmetic just fine when all they had was a teacher, a classroom, and a chalk board.  I&#039;ll allow a little increase for some new technology, though I strongly suspect that kids pick most of that up at home, anyway.

Cut the junk from the budget, give more to the teachers, and pass the rest back to the tax payers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absurd!  I hadn&#8217;t heard about this before and it certainly did not used to be this way.  I&#8217;m glad the burden isn&#8217;t falling on the teacher, but I&#8217;m not happy about this &#8220;solution&#8221; either.</p>
<p>Taxes are constantly rising and teachers are still underpaid and yet parents re being asked to contribute supplies not for the personal use of their child?</p>
<p>And yet we spend so much money on consultants and unnecessary speakers at training meetings (I&#8217;m speaking as a former teacher here)?</p>
<p>My daughter is only 2, but I&#8217;ll be checking into this in my school district.</p>
<p>Kids used to learn to read, write, and do arithmetic just fine when all they had was a teacher, a classroom, and a chalk board.  I&#8217;ll allow a little increase for some new technology, though I strongly suspect that kids pick most of that up at home, anyway.</p>
<p>Cut the junk from the budget, give more to the teachers, and pass the rest back to the tax payers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am soo with you on this!  I agree, i&#039;m happy to supply any items directly related to actual learning!!!    I had a little hissy fit in Wal-mart this week as I discovered first grade needed to supply 2 boxes of 40 count gallon size ziploc bags and 2 boxes of 100 count snack size ziploc bags.  The snack size one threw me!  I honestly did the math outloud on the snack size.. 200 x 25 kids!  5000 snack size bags?  A man just stopped and stared at me as he listened to my tirade.  What on earth do they need that for? and what a huge environmental faux pas!  GRRR- we also are supply 17 pocket folders - each color specified... and 2 4packs of dry erase markers.. again the math boggles me!    All for first grade, all communal!  
In the end, i only purchased one box of snack size bags, in protest!  

5th grade supplies are more reasonable.  7th was even better!  :-)   so it gets better, hang in there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am soo with you on this!  I agree, i&#8217;m happy to supply any items directly related to actual learning!!!    I had a little hissy fit in Wal-mart this week as I discovered first grade needed to supply 2 boxes of 40 count gallon size ziploc bags and 2 boxes of 100 count snack size ziploc bags.  The snack size one threw me!  I honestly did the math outloud on the snack size.. 200 x 25 kids!  5000 snack size bags?  A man just stopped and stared at me as he listened to my tirade.  What on earth do they need that for? and what a huge environmental faux pas!  GRRR- we also are supply 17 pocket folders &#8211; each color specified&#8230; and 2 4packs of dry erase markers.. again the math boggles me!    All for first grade, all communal!<br />
In the end, i only purchased one box of snack size bags, in protest!  </p>
<p>5th grade supplies are more reasonable.  7th was even better!  <img src='http://www.milehighmamas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />    so it gets better, hang in there!</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my list from MN.

First Grade
School bag or backpack without wheels
(5) #2 pencils, (no Rose Art) sharpened
Scissors â childrenâs Fiskars
CRAYOLA Crayons - 24 count regular colors
(1) box 3-oz paper cups
School box (5â?x8â? plastic)
(2) Pink Pearl Erasers (separate from pencil)
(5) pencil top erasers
(3) folders, bottom pocket
(1) wide-lined spiral notebook (no wireless or perforated pages)
Kleenex, large box
(2) 4-oz Elmerâs Glue-All (no school glue, gel paste or glue sticks)
(3) BLACK dry-erase markers
Dry-erase eraser
(1) container Clorox Disinfecting Wipes
Crayola watercolor paints (basic colors - no Rose Art)
$8 voluntary donation for miscellaneous supplies, 
Tennis shoes**(for Phy Ed days)
NO Rose Art products</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my list from MN.</p>
<p>First Grade<br />
School bag or backpack without wheels<br />
(5) #2 pencils, (no Rose Art) sharpened<br />
Scissors â childrenâs Fiskars<br />
CRAYOLA Crayons &#8211; 24 count regular colors<br />
(1) box 3-oz paper cups<br />
School box (5â?x8â? plastic)<br />
(2) Pink Pearl Erasers (separate from pencil)<br />
(5) pencil top erasers<br />
(3) folders, bottom pocket<br />
(1) wide-lined spiral notebook (no wireless or perforated pages)<br />
Kleenex, large box<br />
(2) 4-oz Elmerâs Glue-All (no school glue, gel paste or glue sticks)<br />
(3) BLACK dry-erase markers<br />
Dry-erase eraser<br />
(1) container Clorox Disinfecting Wipes<br />
Crayola watercolor paints (basic colors &#8211; no Rose Art)<br />
$8 voluntary donation for miscellaneous supplies,<br />
Tennis shoes**(for Phy Ed days)<br />
NO Rose Art products</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was kinda floored by the list, as well. Our schools list was very long - much longer then some for the same grade.  But, I am in the process of buying everything, but I know what the district can&#039;t afford, the teachers end up buying.
I don&#039;t know about Colorado pay scales, but in California, teachers didn&#039;t earn much. Yet, when I worked with them, they&#039;d always be buying basic supplies like chalk for their classrooms because the district ran out of money for supplies. So, I&#039;ll suck it up and do what&#039;s needed for the kids sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was kinda floored by the list, as well. Our schools list was very long &#8211; much longer then some for the same grade.  But, I am in the process of buying everything, but I know what the district can&#8217;t afford, the teachers end up buying.<br />
I don&#8217;t know about Colorado pay scales, but in California, teachers didn&#8217;t earn much. Yet, when I worked with them, they&#8217;d always be buying basic supplies like chalk for their classrooms because the district ran out of money for supplies. So, I&#8217;ll suck it up and do what&#8217;s needed for the kids sake.</p>
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		<title>By: trs</title>
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		<dc:creator>trs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a mom - but I am a taxpaying citizen - and I was also once a child who went to school.

Yes, I know that schools are underfunded and that many teachers (including my friends) end up buying a lot of supplies on their own. 

But... 75 pencils per student?  That&#039;s a recipe for waste!  No one should even be considering that they might USE 75 pencils in 9 months!
Even worse... now they are communal pencils... and communal crayons ,&lt;i&gt;(which began with the assumption that some kids get 64 packs of crayons and the kids who get an 8 pack feel bad. - Wah!)&lt;/i&gt;
Here&#039;s the thing.  As a kid, when you have your own crayons - you take pride in them.  I know I did. My little 18 or 24 pack Crayola box wasn&#039;t even tattered at the end of the year - I&#039;m sure I brought it back to school year after year. 
I felt bad for the kid in the next row whose desk was so messy that  his crayon box didn&#039;t even resemble a box any more. 

In reality... when they gather the communal crayons - and dump them into a coffee can ... there is no pride the tools.  No ownership.  They break... kids break them ... and send them back to the coffee can.  Suddenly there&#039;s not a single whole crayon in the can. 
Now... you have the communal crayon can, so Timmy&#039;s runny nose is now mingling with Susie&#039;s chicken pox. GREAT! No wonder they need hand santizer!

I went to a small Catholic school... where in addition to the taxes my parents paid to send YOU to school, they paid tuition for me. 
I had my own crayons as did everyone else in class.  Each kid was to supply kleenex for their own desk.  And no one supplied paper towels.  
We did, however rotate duties in the classroom.  We didn&#039;t pay janitors... students took turns, supervised by the teacher, sweeping the classroom and wiping down desks once a week with a wash cloth and a bucket of soap and water. 

All those paper towels and plastic bottles of santizer are waste  - of money and of resources.
Who uses paper towels anymore?  No one&#039;s heard of napkins and wash clothes?

Off my soapbox.  I found it the janitior&#039;s closet, and Sister Faith reminded me to put it back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a mom &#8211; but I am a taxpaying citizen &#8211; and I was also once a child who went to school.</p>
<p>Yes, I know that schools are underfunded and that many teachers (including my friends) end up buying a lot of supplies on their own. </p>
<p>But&#8230; 75 pencils per student?  That&#8217;s a recipe for waste!  No one should even be considering that they might USE 75 pencils in 9 months!<br />
Even worse&#8230; now they are communal pencils&#8230; and communal crayons ,<i>(which began with the assumption that some kids get 64 packs of crayons and the kids who get an 8 pack feel bad. &#8211; Wah!)</i><br />
Here&#8217;s the thing.  As a kid, when you have your own crayons &#8211; you take pride in them.  I know I did. My little 18 or 24 pack Crayola box wasn&#8217;t even tattered at the end of the year &#8211; I&#8217;m sure I brought it back to school year after year.<br />
I felt bad for the kid in the next row whose desk was so messy that  his crayon box didn&#8217;t even resemble a box any more. </p>
<p>In reality&#8230; when they gather the communal crayons &#8211; and dump them into a coffee can &#8230; there is no pride the tools.  No ownership.  They break&#8230; kids break them &#8230; and send them back to the coffee can.  Suddenly there&#8217;s not a single whole crayon in the can.<br />
Now&#8230; you have the communal crayon can, so Timmy&#8217;s runny nose is now mingling with Susie&#8217;s chicken pox. GREAT! No wonder they need hand santizer!</p>
<p>I went to a small Catholic school&#8230; where in addition to the taxes my parents paid to send YOU to school, they paid tuition for me.<br />
I had my own crayons as did everyone else in class.  Each kid was to supply kleenex for their own desk.  And no one supplied paper towels.<br />
We did, however rotate duties in the classroom.  We didn&#8217;t pay janitors&#8230; students took turns, supervised by the teacher, sweeping the classroom and wiping down desks once a week with a wash cloth and a bucket of soap and water. </p>
<p>All those paper towels and plastic bottles of santizer are waste  &#8211; of money and of resources.<br />
Who uses paper towels anymore?  No one&#8217;s heard of napkins and wash clothes?</p>
<p>Off my soapbox.  I found it the janitior&#8217;s closet, and Sister Faith reminded me to put it back!</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a mom, and I serve on my local school board. I agree with you that the lists are insane. Our district does not have such a crazy list. However, there are a few products on the list that are communal. The reason? We have some students who cannot afford supplies. On the lists, it lets parents know that- if they cannot afford the supplies- they do not have to buy them. And we&#039;ve planned it so that parents can drop off the supplies in such a way that it wouldn&#039;t be obvious who did and didn&#039;t bring supplies. We felt this was the most sensitive way of handling the issue, and we developed this policy after have multiple meetings with the PTA. However, there are still some expensive supplies needed for certain classes. For example, graphing calculators cost over $100. The District simply can&#039;t give them out to everyone taking geography or calculus. It wouldn&#039;t fit in the budget, and property taxes are already high. So we have a separate educational charity that raises money to buy some extra supplies, which the guidance counselors confidentially provide to students who are in need. If you don&#039;t like the way things are run in your school district, find out when the school board meets and go to the meeting to complain. Hardly anyone goes to those meetings, so your voice would be heard. Even better...run for the school board and change the policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a mom, and I serve on my local school board. I agree with you that the lists are insane. Our district does not have such a crazy list. However, there are a few products on the list that are communal. The reason? We have some students who cannot afford supplies. On the lists, it lets parents know that- if they cannot afford the supplies- they do not have to buy them. And we&#8217;ve planned it so that parents can drop off the supplies in such a way that it wouldn&#8217;t be obvious who did and didn&#8217;t bring supplies. We felt this was the most sensitive way of handling the issue, and we developed this policy after have multiple meetings with the PTA. However, there are still some expensive supplies needed for certain classes. For example, graphing calculators cost over $100. The District simply can&#8217;t give them out to everyone taking geography or calculus. It wouldn&#8217;t fit in the budget, and property taxes are already high. So we have a separate educational charity that raises money to buy some extra supplies, which the guidance counselors confidentially provide to students who are in need. If you don&#8217;t like the way things are run in your school district, find out when the school board meets and go to the meeting to complain. Hardly anyone goes to those meetings, so your voice would be heard. Even better&#8230;run for the school board and change the policy.</p>
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